Online Trader Stallion Tips Posts: Sat Oct 27, I have dabbled in this for ages but have never really got stuck into it properly. It is an area of trading that I find fascinating but at the same time I have always been very cautious of it.

I have always preferred to go down the route of Back to Lay allowing the Lay to go in running which is of course a strict no no as far as pre the off trading is concerned. I thought we could perhaps get some discussion going as to the positives and negatives and perhaps exchange some views and ideas on strategies. Follow me on Twitter Light Years Behind. A simple and often effective strategy is to "scalp" the favorite by backing and immediately laying for 1 or 2 ticks lower, this can be done manually but it is much easier using software.

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Usually best done in the mins before the off as this is when the markets are at their most liquid. The beauty of this method is that you can "recycle" your stake many times over in order to build up a green position. This position can then either be left as a "free bet" on the favorite or it can be "greened" to give equal profit across all runners. Mon Apr 25, But then, I only tried to use the movements of the markets themselves, i.

So, possibly that's not the set-up a pro would use. I have been pretty successful in arbing horses before the off, but that's a completely different thing. Thu Nov 17, I prefer not to have them go in play. I'd do pretty well but unfortunately I lack the discipline required an end up over staking and letting too much go in play against me. I did ok on Friday so I might see if I can keep some sense this week!

So i will trade big amounts on the pre race markets 10 mins before the off, having taking a view on which way the market is going to go. I never ever let these trades go in running. Normally the pre trades are on 1 of the first three in the betting, i dont have a set limit of ticks on the profit side but would cut out if the trade went against me more than 4 ticks if i could But i may Lay at 3.

Many trade blind, just trading the figures and that can reap benefits, however it is not for me, i need some reason to back or Lay.

My best bits of advice are Dont trade markets you know nothing about, and check the make up of the race before you decide to trade, some races are much more competative than others. Check Out And Don't Miss Out On Forum Cash Rewards! I have found that I am better suited to "swing trading" as I am quite happy to sit and watch markets without getting involved until I spot an opportunity. This can mean that I go all day without trading a race but that suits me.

Often I think I have spotted a move only for it not to happen and I am happy to take a small loss and move onto the next one. I have found that 1 or 2 tick scalping is not really for me as it requires a lot of focus and is very intense. Nors you say that you are happy to take a 4 tick loss well not happy but would accept do you set a stop loss at 4 ticks?

I would have thought that this would be too tight and would fire too often? If i was trading in the 10 mins before the off i wouldnt use the stop loss facility because i would be monitoring as i go, but would cut out around the 4 ticks manually.

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I would say concentrate on 2 meetings only - where the races are as far away from each other in time as possible. So tomorrow and at this time of the year you can mix up flat with jumps and find the biggest gap as possible - so it gives you longer to study the pre race markets.

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Contact man o bong. In my experience, and Im going back maybe years for this, so it may have changed, During the week, it just seemed to be all out war with traders money, requiring far more focus and shorter moves back and forth. When you're told you can't do something, do it and prove them wrong.

The markets on the exchanges always know before the price is cut in shops. It was difficult to grasp anything substantial from it. Different from trading in-play on a football match, for example where you know what direction odds are going to go as the game progresses.

I've never been a layer either. Tried it but never could make it profit. I'll trade now, in those sports where it's more predictable footy, golf for example , and bet to win. Follow me on Twitter: Fri Apr 08, Fri Jul 20, What i can say is you have to find the edge in your sport, and then the movement edge in those market's.

Pre-race market's is the most wonderful place to be, if you can get your head around it. Last edited by turfline on Sun Jun 23, Display posts from previous: All posts 1 day 7 days 2 weeks 1 month 3 months 6 months 1 year Sort by Author Post time Subject Ascending Descending. Who is online Users browsing this forum: Register Contact Help Terms Privacy Cookies Site Map Reviews About Us Sponsorship.